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Post by jonathan on Nov 4, 2004 2:12:40 GMT -5
A swing is not JUST a swing. Most kb drills are not JUST what they appear to be. I self-trained for half a year and thought I had mastered it. In fact, I had only got it at most 50% right. Here are some tips for self-learners. singaporekettlebells.tripod.com/id26.htmlThe swing is one of the most effective exercises ever for strength and conditioning. Do not underestimate it. |
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Post by captnJ on Nov 4, 2004 2:41:21 GMT -5
i with you on swings for conditoning. I do 10 sets of 10 with a 70lb kettlebell (kettelstack actually) for cardio... its not nearly as hard as a 2 km slow jog which is obviously the best way to get trim and fit. (HAHAHAAHA maybe that will encourage more people to buy em)
But why do you say lose grip? I mean, if the things heavy we have to grip tight to get it up and explode it. Only on the part of the snatch where the bell flips over do we have to losten the grip right? Im quite new to KB but in O-lifts with a real barbell, you dont let go or grip loosely... after the second pull and hip explosion you can grip it less tight to get under it of course but i souldnt describe it as "loose" either... is the KB lift different?
rgds
Joanthan wong
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Post by jonathan on Nov 4, 2004 23:39:20 GMT -5
Excuse me, swings not nearly as hard as a 2km slow jog? Are you sure you have been swinging?
2km slow jog obviously the best way to get trim and fit? Not much of a runner aren't you?
Do (10, 15, 20) x 2 or 20 x5 instead of 10 x 10. Swings are meant to be done for high reps in the 20s. Or try swinging for a minute.
For the swing, there is only one point where the grip is tighter: At the bottom when the bell swings between your legs. Even then, a full grip is not required.
For snatches, there are only two points where the grip is tighter: At the top as the bell flips over and at the bottom as it swings between your legs. At the top a full grip can be applied to absorb the shock.
When I say loose, I meant having just enough tension to keep the bell from flying away from you at any point. Of course, heavier bells require more grip strength, but that still does not mean a full crushing grip. The reason I use the word "loose" is to place focus on the hip thrust, which is what drives the bell. Beginners tend to grip the bell very hard and use their arms to force the bell up, defeating the whole purpose of the swing. When done properly, you can even swing with only your fingers for grip. At the top of the swing, you should be able to let go for a while, change hands, even flip the bell around before catching it again. That's how loose is loose.
KB lifts are meant to be done for high reps. Olympic lifts are not meant to be done repeatedly, so the technique is different.
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Post by captnJ on Nov 4, 2004 23:45:52 GMT -5
ok... you din get the 2km jog joke huh... haha OF COURES THE SWINGS ARE HARDER!@!!!!!!
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Post by jonathan on Nov 5, 2004 1:00:34 GMT -5
Sheesh!  |
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Post by IronVixen on Nov 5, 2004 1:02:45 GMT -5
jonthan got no sense of humour ;D
"Excuse me, swings not nearly as hard as a 2km slow jog? Are you sure you have been swinging?
2km slow jog obviously the best way to get trim and fit? Not much of a runner aren't you?"
jolly rude.
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Post by Univarse9 on Nov 9, 2004 22:21:16 GMT -5
Can I inquire as to the weight:cost ratio for kettlebells?
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Post by jonathan on Nov 10, 2004 7:20:14 GMT -5
No kbs are sold or made in Singapore at the moment.
I have a very reliable source who can help me ship in good quality bells, individually packed and epoxy coated, in SGD at $100 for 16kg, $140 for 24kg and $180 for 32kg, these are rough figures. But to get them at such a price would entail a big order. I'm doing all I can to promote kb training. IF there are enough people interested in doing it and IF there is a market for it, I can place a really HUGE order and the price of each bell will drop by least $20. You can make comparisons with bells currently sold in other countries like the US, Australia, UK, Canada etc, trust me, you will not be able to find one with prices anywhere near my estimates. And their prices DON'T include shipping overseas.
If you and or anyone else are serious about getting them, email me so that I can consolidate a list. As much as I would like to order a whole bunch and have them shipped here ready to sell, to do so would be just plain stupid considering that kb training is still almost completely unknown here. And I don't have the funds to import a huge batch anyway.
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Post by captnJ on Nov 10, 2004 7:32:59 GMT -5
Can I inquire as to the weight:cost ratio for kettlebells? consider kettlestacks kettlestack.com or do a googel for it. I have a pair. Decent. and adjustable so you just need 2. |
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