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Post by Oracle on Sept 1, 2004 20:44:31 GMT -5
usually people talk about deadlift platform. Is this a raised platform which the bar is generally couple of inches higher as compare to those on the floor?
By the way, if i do it in a power rack; ie. bar sitting on the safey bars which suspend the bar 1 ft above the air, does that count?
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Post by Hardcore on Sept 1, 2004 21:06:21 GMT -5
wht do u mean by count ?? i dont really understand your question
deadlift platform has hooks at waist height to set the weight on with some kind of rack apparatus to put your bar on when you are loading or unloading plates.
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Post by captnJ on Sept 2, 2004 1:53:38 GMT -5
when ppl say platform it ususally refers to the olympic lifting platform you see in athletes gyms/ olympics. Its a wooden center and rubber sides. This, along with rubber bumper plates allwos the weight to be dropped safely from overhead thus saving the lifter from lowering a heavy weight slowly (which is how i gto my previous back injury).... IMHO a lifting plat form is VERY important for atheletic training.
regds
Jonathan
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Post by lok3 on Sept 2, 2004 3:11:07 GMT -5
By the way, if i do it in a power rack; ie. bar sitting on the safey bars which suspend the bar 1 ft above the air, does that count? Does less work on the legs and target more on the back as more weight can be used. Do the full ROM and the quads+HAms will get hit as hell. ;D |
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Post by captnJ on Sept 2, 2004 4:38:29 GMT -5
usually people talk about deadlift platform. Is this a raised platform which the bar is generally couple of inches higher as compare to those on the floor? By the way, if i do it in a power rack; ie. bar sitting on the safey bars which suspend the bar 1 ft above the air, does that count? Thats called a "pin pull" Its good for increasing lockout strencth of the deadlift, also good for grip and torso in handling heavy weights. Pin pulls do have a place in a reular deadlifting day rotation. You have to decide where your weakest point in the DL is. If its locking out pin pulls are excellent, also are Speed pulls with 70-80% of 1Rm form teh floor. But if gettign the bar off the floor is the problem its the lower back that is the weak link and you should be training that with more good mornings and hyperextensions. |
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Post by lok3 on Sept 2, 2004 5:54:08 GMT -5
Thats called a "pin pull" Its good for increasing lockout strencth of the deadlift, also good for grip and torso in handling heavy weights. Pin pulls do have a place in a reular deadlifting day rotation. You have to decide where your weakest point in the DL is. If its locking out pin pulls are excellent, also are Speed pulls with 70-80% of 1Rm form teh floor. But if gettign the bar off the floor is the problem its the lower back that is the weak link and you should be training that with more good mornings and hyperextensions. Just wanted to say something, good mornings are very dangerous if not do with form.Btw anyone knoes how to gain forearm mass using the standard gym equiptment.  |
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Post by captnJ on Sept 2, 2004 6:37:55 GMT -5
Just wanted to say something, good mornings are very dangerous if not do with form.Btw anyone knoes how to gain forearm mass using the standard gym equiptment. All useful exercises have a component of risk. Good mornings are extremely important. They are not dangerous at all if you know how to breathe properly to create intra-abdominal pressure. you can even do them with a rounded upper back if you know how to use the torso structure to brace against the weight. GMs are importnat because it trains the body to react to the "catastrophic" conditon of losing a squat forward (the most common problem wne squatting) it FORCES you to arch the weight BACK not up. therein lies its value. Any exercise is dangerous if the ego gets ahead of the technique and ability. regds Jonathan |
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Post by Oracle on Sept 2, 2004 8:02:11 GMT -5
my sticking point is the initial liftoff from the floor so my "pin pull" is higher than my deadlift. so where is my weakness and how can i overcome it?
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Post by captnJ on Sept 2, 2004 8:15:01 GMT -5
lower back is weak, work on wide stance squats for the hips also gm and speed pulls and hyperextensio with weights
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Post by Oracle on Sept 3, 2004 2:06:07 GMT -5
i see. thanks!
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