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Post by Hypertrophy on Dec 28, 2004 10:49:48 GMT -5
How much do you think is too much (grams per day per kg body weight)? Let's discuss!
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Sofyan
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Post by Sofyan on Dec 30, 2004 8:38:34 GMT -5
When I took my NCAP, they lecturers were telling more than 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight was too much.
Well funny though
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Post by Greentea on Dec 30, 2004 9:03:02 GMT -5
In fact , i think that consuming food from sources with higher BV like egg , red meat , milk blar blar will make the requirement lower when on bulking pharse comparing to using protein from bad source like soy , complementary protein by combining 2 source of food that lack of one or more amino acid . to be safe , i think 0.7-1g of protein per lbs of quality protein is safer .
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Post by Hypertrophy on Jan 1, 2005 22:23:05 GMT -5
In fact , i think that consuming food from sources with higher BV like egg , red meat , milk blar blar will make the requirement lower when on bulking pharse comparing to using protein from bad source like soy , complementary protein by combining 2 source of food that lack of one or more amino acid . to be safe , i think 0.7-1g of protein per lbs of quality protein is safer . For a drug free builder, my opinion is 1g per lb bodyweight per day is about as high as it can get. On some day, it may be useful to drop to 0.75g protein per lb body weight per day to reset the nitrogen retention ability of the body. Anything more than 1g per lb, will just make the kidneys do more work, counter-productive in term of positive nitrogen balance cos body become adapt temporary to a high protein intake.
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Post by Hardcore on Jan 2, 2005 20:46:28 GMT -5
For a drug free builder, my opinion is 1g per lb bodyweight per day is about as high as it can get. On some day, it may be useful to drop to 0.75g protein per lb body weight per day to reset the nitrogen retention ability of the body. Anything more than 1g per lb, will just make the kidneys do more work, counter-productive in term of positive nitrogen balance cos body become adapt temporary to a high protein intake. Agree !
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Post by grungerock on Jan 5, 2005 8:04:59 GMT -5
The question that runs in my mind is that in the protein powder, it stated to take 3 times a day (assuming per intake is 30 g of protein)... 3 x 30 g = 90 g. and as my weight is 187 lb, that means i need at total of approximately 187g of protein. does that mean i take 4 to 5 times a day, assuming i take other meals with protein??
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Post by TanTan on Jan 5, 2005 10:58:08 GMT -5
other sources of foods will have protein as well, such as milk, chic breast, wholemeal food, brown rice and more.
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Post by ultimate on Jan 5, 2005 11:15:23 GMT -5
The question that runs in my mind is that in the protein powder, it stated to take 3 times a day (assuming per intake is 30 g of protein)... 3 x 30 g = 90 g. and as my weight is 187 lb, that means i need at total of approximately 187g of protein. does that mean i take 4 to 5 times a day, assuming i take other meals with protein?? That will depend on your protein intake from whole food. Your total daily protein intake assuming you are weight training reasonably hard 3-4 times a week, and you are drug free should be about 1.8g per kg body weight and never exceed 2g per kg body weight. Remember supplement will always be meant to be supplement. 2 serves (20g-30g each serve) of protein powder daily is most ideal. Include eggs, milk, lean meat, fish, yougert, tofu, legumes to add up to your protein need. Even food like bread, pasta, oat have some protein content.
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Post by grungerock on May 19, 2005 7:32:03 GMT -5
So in this case, if based on my 187lb, it's ok to take 120g of protein powder excluding the food. That means 4 servings of protein powder per day, each serving is 30 g of protein...
pls advice.
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Post by ultimate on May 19, 2005 10:54:08 GMT -5
So in this case, if based on my 187lb, it's ok to take 120g of protein powder excluding the food. That means 4 servings of protein powder per day, each serving is 30 g of protein... pls advice. Many people only count protein content in their protein powder in their daily protein intake... big mistake! The total daily protein intake should include those from their food (every meals). I know saying this will hurt the sales of protein powders, but consumers should know this (clearly). After the protein needs are met, calories intake has the biggest impact on muscle gain.
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Post by Greentea on May 19, 2005 11:06:33 GMT -5
So typical weight gainer shouldn't be as part of the total daily protein intake ?
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Post by ultimate on May 19, 2005 11:47:38 GMT -5
So typical weight gainer shouldn't be as part of the total daily protein intake ? Oh sorry, I meant supplements rather than just protein powders. ;D
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Post by grungerock on May 20, 2005 2:26:52 GMT -5
i didn't count in the food intake, but say excluding food intake, 120 g of protein..is it too much (supplement)? can anyone share how much supplement protein they take in g per day excluding food? So in this case, if based on my 187lb, it's ok to take 120g of protein powder excluding the food. That means 4 servings of protein powder per day, each serving is 30 g of protein... pls advice. Many people only count protein content in their protein powder in their daily protein intake... big mistake! The total daily protein intake should include those from their food (every meals). I know saying this will hurt the sales of protein powders, but consumers should know this (clearly). After the protein needs are met, calories intake has the biggest impact on muscle gain.
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Post by ultimate on May 20, 2005 3:23:18 GMT -5
i didn't count in the food intake, but say excluding food intake, 120 g of protein..is it too much (supplement)? can anyone share how much supplement protein they take in g per day excluding food? Most of my customers take 1-3 portion (1 portion give about 20-30g protein) of protein drink/high protein gainer daily depending on their diet and size. The rest of protein intake should come from milk, eggs, lean meat and other wholesome food. The nitrogen balance studies done by leading researcher, Peter Lemon shows that bodybuilders need not more than 2g protein per kg body weight daily, compare to what are published in bb mags that is surprisingly low. I personally believe only when one is on steroids then he may need more than that because drugs alter protein metabolism by increasing anabolism.
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