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Post by chubz01 on Aug 27, 2005 2:45:12 GMT -5
For me personally, i prefer dumbbells.Because the stronger muscle does not help the weaker one.Take for example, someone barbell push press 200 lbs, who knows if the right shoulder could be the one doing more work than the left one thus the left one becomes less developed than the right(The fact that the right arm sometimes is straighter than the left proves it).Whereas, take for example shoulder pressing 100Lbs each arm.You would know which is the stronger/weaker shoulder, barbells sometimes give a false sense of strength to me.This is just my opinion, i hope i do not get bashed because of this.
*I still use barbells btw, but more of dumbbells, some exercises can only be done with barbells due to unsufficent dumbbell weights sometimes*
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Post by Oracle on Aug 27, 2005 4:24:14 GMT -5
you have a point there. i read that dumbbell press are more demanding on the muscles but allow a greater flexibility on the joints, thus can build greater functional strength. Main issues is mounting the heavy dumbbells to the startup point of the exercise. plus dropping down the weights, i tore my shoulder ligament because of that.
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Post by Hardcore on Aug 27, 2005 7:10:14 GMT -5
my fav is also dumbbells are much more superior over barbells , true with what Oracle said... the other it's more demanding is because it uses our stability muscles which demands quite a bit too
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Post by doinker on Aug 27, 2005 10:42:30 GMT -5
Yeah, dumbells are more versatile and build supporting muscle better. In general, they're kick arse.
HOWEVER, I still prefer barbells IF aiming to build mass (depending on what excercise of course). Heavy barbell curls to failure with perfect form and the good ol' bench press are two examples.
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Post by Guniang on Aug 27, 2005 10:43:30 GMT -5
Best is to use more on both....Mix it up...One cycle use more on DB another cycle use more on BB....I oso like dumbells but my shoulder joint injury is affecting my progress...Cos sometimes it gives way out of sudden ....Out of sudden no strength...Scary
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Post by jonathan on Aug 27, 2005 12:21:56 GMT -5
The dumbbell has to be supported in three planes of motion, the barbell two. That alone makes it superior in all ways in theory. But practically speaking, it's too troublesome to have 100, 200, 300kg dumbbells, imagine how big they'll be! And like Oracle said, getting them into starting postition and putting them down can be very troublesome unless you have a partner. Furthermore, for lifts like deadlift and squat, the barbell does rule over the dumbbell.
Both have their uses, definately. For some exercises, dumbbells rule, for others, barbells. They're just tools, use whatever you need to get the job done.
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Post by Oracle on Aug 28, 2005 9:12:30 GMT -5
talk about dumbbells, how come these good gyms dont carry those mountable DB handle that we can mount olympic plates on them? have never seen a pair like this anywhere.
imagine, a dumbbell with a pair of 20kg plates on it.. woa, now that is some DBs!
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Post by irx on Aug 28, 2005 9:49:45 GMT -5
my gym has DB's that are 40kg, something you're looking for, oracle ? DBs definately help hit the stabalizers and give a different look to muscle cutting - but i think heavy compounds with barbells and smith machines seem to put on lots of mass. also, for people who stucked to smith/barbells for some time, they will have a harder tiem adapting to dumbbells. i think starting out using both of them would be optimal. i personally switch to db's and leeave the le-che smith machines and menacing barbells/olympic bars alone most of the time. dbs = grab and go! here's an experience e.g. at my wt og ~65 i was doing seated military presses with 20kg DB's, but this bigger, more experinced la jiao at 85kg needed spotting to hold on to 12.5kg's to avoid dropping them He was puzzled ''farnie, why u do like no kick like that''. Heh.
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Post by jonathan on Aug 29, 2005 0:50:42 GMT -5
talk about dumbbells, how come these good gyms dont carry those mountable DB handle that we can mount olympic plates on them? have never seen a pair like this anywhere. imagine, a dumbbell with a pair of 20kg plates on it.. woa, now that is some DBs! Such heavy duty handles exists?
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Post by irx on Aug 29, 2005 2:40:33 GMT -5
talk about dumbbells, how come these good gyms dont carry those mountable DB handle that we can mount olympic plates on them? have never seen a pair like this anywhere. imagine, a dumbbell with a pair of 20kg plates on it.. woa, now that is some DBs! Such heavy duty handles exists? why not, they have dumbbells to more than 50kg in the US i don't think we will see them around very often though.
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Post by Oracle on Aug 29, 2005 2:59:55 GMT -5
see Ronnie Coleman's video. he handled a pair of 200lb dumbbells like they were cotton candies. heard that metroflex has specially made a pair of 220lb and 240lb for him. anyone can try the dumbbells there,... just have to sign the indemnity form.
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Post by hermanchauw on Aug 29, 2005 3:34:53 GMT -5
Such heavy duty handles exists? [/quote]Yes, i think Pavel used it in Relax Into Stretch in the photo for the windmill stretch or something like that.
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Post by jonathan on Aug 29, 2005 9:42:59 GMT -5
So it looks like a very short barbell?
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Post by hermanchauw on Aug 30, 2005 2:56:15 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by doinker on Aug 30, 2005 7:18:36 GMT -5
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