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Post by Oracle on Nov 20, 2004 6:58:24 GMT -5
i read from another forum that using belt in training will slow down or even deteoriate the core strength. While some argue that using belt will increase lower back pressure , increase poundage lift and for safety. so what are your takes on this?
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Post by lok3 on Nov 20, 2004 9:32:07 GMT -5
i read from another forum that using belt in training will slow down or even deteoriate the core strength. While some argue that using belt will increase lower back pressure , increase poundage lift and for safety. so what are your takes on this? Im going wif belt for now...After injuring ur back , ur psyche will never allow u to pull ur max without something to rely on..the belt ;D |
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Post by Heeman on Nov 23, 2004 8:41:06 GMT -5
Hi,
Imo, I feel that a belt is needed only during heavy squat, deadlift and row as it will increase the intra abd pressure thus enhancing core stability. However, there is a tendency to over rely on it during other easy lifts as well. Try not to use them if you feel confident. Using too often will make your lower back weak. This happends to me rpeviously. Now i only use them during my 4-6 reps of the said routines. Hope it helps.
cheeers
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Post by ultimate on Nov 26, 2004 21:31:25 GMT -5
You can wear the belt loosely around your waist in the gym almost all the time. Tighten the belt only on heavy set of squat, rows and overhead press. The belt will reduce the risk of lower back injuries. For bodybuilding purpose, the belt will help to keep the waist from over growing to enhance the much desirable V-shaped torso. ;D
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Post by Heeman on Nov 27, 2004 2:05:52 GMT -5
You can wear the belt loosely around your waist in the gym almost all the time. Tighten the belt only on heavy set of squat, rows and overhead press. The belt will reduce the risk of lower back injuries. For bodybuilding purpose, the belt will help to keep the waist from over growing to enhance the much desirable V-shaped torso. ;D Sorri bro, I beg to differ the above discussion. It is really not necessary to wear the belt loosely to walk around. It will create a false sense of security. We must allow our core to develop portionately to our upper body strength. In fact wearing the belt too much WILL cause injuries indirectly. However, I do not quite understand the wearing belt "will help to keep the waist from over growing to enhance the much desirable V-shaped torso." You mean that the belt compresses the waist line, thus giving the the shape? cheers |
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Post by Sofyan on Dec 25, 2004 8:15:25 GMT -5
I go for No belt.
If you are really training for extreme fitness than a Rock solid Core if Vital.
By not using a belt and conciously activiating your core muscles you are helping to condition and train the core muscles.
Or you can just do Clinical Pilates.
(I can assure you a Physio putting you on a Pilates Reformer machine can seriously chaleenge your core muscles.)
But i am too lazy to do Pilates so I go for No belt.
However if one is training Super Heacy...adn I really mean Super Heavy (E.g At the very least 200 pounds for squat than maybe a Belt does have its advantage especially after teh 6 or 7th set.)
This my humble opinion and no need to get angry over my statements. If you disagree... than Cheers
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Post by Oracle on Dec 26, 2004 0:32:48 GMT -5
....This my humble opinion and no need to get angry over my statements. If you disagree... than Cheers hi dude, absolutely no worries.  this forum encourages people to share their opnions, input and ideas about this sport that we passionately pursue. I strongly encourage u to share more and likewise, forum lurkers, please join in and share your experiences and ideas. cheers, people. |
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Post by lok3 on Dec 26, 2004 9:39:15 GMT -5
I go for No belt. However if one is training Super Heacy...adn I really mean Super Heavy (E.g At the very least 200 pounds for squat than maybe a Belt does have its advantage especially after teh 6 or 7th set.) hey bro heavy is relative, 200lb to u may be heavy but to others, its either feather light or could be even impossible ;D Maby u should phrase ur sentence like *when training near ur 1 rep max ;D |
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Post by Greentea on Dec 26, 2004 23:09:06 GMT -5
hey bro heavy is relative, 200lb to u may be heavy but to others, its either feather light or could be even impossible ;D Maby u should phrase ur sentence like *when training near ur 1 rep max ;D relax brother , it's bodybuilding , not powerlifting ;D |
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Post by Sofyan on Dec 27, 2004 10:22:34 GMT -5
hey bro heavy is relative, 200lb to u may be heavy but to others, its either feather light or could be even impossible ;D Maby u should phrase ur sentence like *when training near ur 1 rep max ;D My apologises... The 200lb is meant to be a minimum requirement... NOt a Super Heavy.... But I like your recommendation of using the word 1RM instead. Thank you for your suggestion. |
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Post by Greentea on Dec 27, 2004 19:50:29 GMT -5
My apologises... The 200lb is meant to be a minimum requirement... NOt a Super Heavy.... But I like your recommendation of using the word 1RM instead. Thank you for your suggestion. be it 200lbs or 20lbs , it doesn't matter unless you are powerlifter , again this is a bodybuilding forum not powerlifting |
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Post by lok3 on Dec 27, 2004 23:46:21 GMT -5
be it 200lbs or 20lbs , it doesn't matter unless you are powerlifter , again this is a bodybuilding forum not powerlifting yes it does to a certain extent ;D u dun find any 250lb mofo's benching 20lbs with mass gains, strength gains usually folows  |
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Post by Sofyan on Dec 28, 2004 22:45:05 GMT -5
May I enquire as to the meaning of mofo?
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Post by Guniang on Feb 2, 2005 2:53:06 GMT -5
i feel that use belt if u feel unsafe or u feel tt ur back cant take the pressure...u wun wanna be egoistic n brk ur back n b paralysed....slowly train up ur back muscles seaparately....
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Post by lawrence21 on Feb 2, 2005 22:41:44 GMT -5
my personal opinion is that in bodybuilding, on top of hypertrophy(duh), you are training for symmetry and the strength of one part of your body should be able to support another. so if you back/core is not strong enough for you to handle a certain weight, it is a better idea to let the back's strength to catch up for you to handle the weight, especially for squats and deadlifts. i just don't think it is worth blowing your back just to lift that extra couple of pounds.  |
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