FireEel
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Post by FireEel on Jun 5, 2005 9:56:21 GMT -5
Hi all again. So far, I have been doing my home work-outs on a regular basic.
17 years old
1.65 tall on a bad day
1.67 tall on a good day
53-55 kg
Small-sized body
Monday & Friday
Standard Pushups
Bendgrips
Palmgrips
Dips
Wednesday & Saturday
Diamond Pushups
Standard Pushups with legs on bed
Lift dumbells palm-up
Lift dumbells palm-down
Monday, Wednesday, Friday
Standard Situps
Tueday, Thursday, Saturday
Crunches
Every week, I increase the number of my exercise by roughly 5 each.
Example
Standard pushups
Week 1 = 25
Week 2 = 30
Week 3 = 35...
Dumbells Palm-up
Week 1 = 15
Week 2 = 20
Week 3 = 25...
Unfortunately, I find that my increase is highly inconsistent at times. Sometimes, I can actually increase the number of exercise from previous times by 8. At times, I do even less exercise than before.
I started at 25 standard pushups, now I can do 85. However, it takes me a hell lot of trouble just to hit that 5 more. After doing this 85, now I find that I cannot do my other exercises, my arms simply ache too much. In the past, when I did just 60 pushups, I could continue on with bendgrips and dips with little trouble.
Also, for dumbells palm-up, I couldn't increase it much. I did 15 at first, increased it to 30, then I suddenly dropped down to 20. Right now, I can do 45, but the increase was much slower than my other exercises.
Worst still for dumbells palm-down. I tried to increase it from 15 to 25. Suddenly, it dropped down to 13, and i found it way too tiring to increase it anymore than 15 nowadays.
Months ago, to increase the number of exercise and to go on with other exercises all in a single day was easy. Now, I find that if I force myself to increase the exercises anymore, my body is usually too worn-out to continue on with my other exercises and I would be forced to rest a day or two.
Am I reaching my maximum potential? I was hoping to hit 200 push-ups without stopping.
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Post by Hardcore on Jun 5, 2005 21:55:28 GMT -5
In bodybuilding, the only stopping you is your mental.
To ensure that you gain consistently, is not just weight lifting. You have to take into account of other factors, such as your sleeping schedule, diet. Those are really important.
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Post by ~Xc@libuR~ on Jun 6, 2005 0:18:23 GMT -5
hmm... just my opinion... maybe u r overdoing it? As said by Hardcore... appropriate rest and diet are both equally important to progress... and i would think with each increase of reps u make... u should stick to that for a while... let ur body adjust to the change before u make further progress... well that's my thought... i maybe wrong...  |
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Post by ultimate on Jun 6, 2005 1:42:48 GMT -5
In bodybuilding, the only stopping you is your mental. To ensure that you gain consistently, is not just weight lifting. You have to take into account of other factors, such as your sleeping schedule, diet. Those are really important. Yeah, the rest part is important. If your CNS is well rested, you can perform a lot better, cos your nerves fired more efficiently. Other than that is your genes, then come your nutrition and rest pattern. ;D |
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Post by lok3 on Jun 6, 2005 1:43:54 GMT -5
Hi all again. So far, I have been doing my home work-outs on a regular basic. 17 years old 1.65 tall on a bad day 1.67 tall on a good day 53-55 kg Small-sized body Monday & Friday Standard Pushups Bendgrips Palmgrips Dips Wednesday & Saturday Diamond Pushups Standard Pushups with legs on bed Lift dumbells palm-up Lift dumbells palm-down Monday, Wednesday, Friday Standard Situps Tueday, Thursday, Saturday Crunches Every week, I increase the number of my exercise by roughly 5 each. Example Standard pushups Week 1 = 25 Week 2 = 30 Week 3 = 35... Dumbells Palm-up Week 1 = 15 Week 2 = 20 Week 3 = 25... Unfortunately, I find that my increase is highly inconsistent at times. Sometimes, I can actually increase the number of exercise from previous times by 8. At times, I do even less exercise than before. I started at 25 standard pushups, now I can do 85. However, it takes me a hell lot of trouble just to hit that 5 more. After doing this 85, now I find that I cannot do my other exercises, my arms simply ache too much. In the past, when I did just 60 pushups, I could continue on with bendgrips and dips with little trouble. Also, for dumbells palm-up, I couldn't increase it much. I did 15 at first, increased it to 30, then I suddenly dropped down to 20. Right now, I can do 45, but the increase was much slower than my other exercises. Worst still for dumbells palm-down. I tried to increase it from 15 to 25. Suddenly, it dropped down to 13, and i found it way too tiring to increase it anymore than 15 nowadays. Months ago, to increase the number of exercise and to go on with other exercises all in a single day was easy. Now, I find that if I force myself to increase the exercises anymore, my body is usually too worn-out to continue on with my other exercises and I would be forced to rest a day or two. Am I reaching my maximum potential? I was hoping to hit 200 push-ups without stopping. What is your objectives of ur training, maximal strength? mass? or pure endurance? If ur training for the first 2, ur better off in the gym and eating like a pig. ;D |
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Post by KelvinL on Jun 6, 2005 19:40:15 GMT -5
What's a dumbell palm down man ? Sounds like some chinese kung fu move you see in the movie.
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FireEel
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Post by FireEel on Jun 7, 2005 0:22:09 GMT -5
Dumbell palm-down? I have no idea, just a random exercise I decided to start doing.
Anyway, my purpose for exercising is........overall fitness. If my parents require me to move some heavy stuff around, I can do it. If someone bigger size challenges me to arm-wrestling, I can win. If I am ever punished to do push-ups by a lecturer, or future NS-superior, I can do it with ease. If I am to take off my shirt in the beach, my girl-friends wouldn't go "Skinny and weak body!" like they once did, they would be more like "Wow! Toned!"
Stuff like this, yeah...
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Post by KelvinL on Jun 7, 2005 0:27:07 GMT -5
I see. Well you shouldn't be doing random movements in anycase. You should check out www.bodybuilding.com to look at some basic movements for each body part. And if you wanna get stronger, than mostly u'll need to hit the gym. Body weight exercises will not build much muscle, initially yes, but after 2 - 3 months, you'll need to hit the iron. |
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Post by lok3 on Jun 7, 2005 0:44:39 GMT -5
Dumbell palm-down? I have no idea, just a random exercise I decided to start doing. Anyway, my purpose for exercising is........overall fitness. If my parents require me to move some heavy stuff around, I can do it. If someone bigger size challenges me to arm-wrestling, I can win. If I am ever punished to do push-ups by a lecturer, or future NS-superior, I can do it with ease. If I am to take off my shirt in the beach, my girl-friends wouldn't go "Skinny and weak body!" like they once did, they would be more like "Wow! Toned!" Stuff like this, yeah... u want to win the big guy, you have got to be quick and powerful like bruce lee ;D try training for power in the gym so u can do flying kicks on his face ;D |
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Post by Greentea on Jun 7, 2005 2:10:11 GMT -5
I used to be a Freaking plump fello , thereafter i when to "slim" down , that time i was freaking weak , There was once my friend want to challenge arm-wresling with me , but i rejected , i insulted me weakling and etc , well , i ignore all the critisisim becuz i know my gf still love me ! muha , anyway you are exercising for general fitness , well , same as me then .
I now starting my 1 week break while doing 11 rounds around the stadium in 14mins followed by 100metres sprinting , 80 metre , 60 metre and 40metres sprinting . After this week , i'm starting on periodization . which i have done it 3 months plus ago .
Anyway for general fitness , You actually doesn't really need weight training , but with addition of weight training , it's also efficient .
Why not try circuit training ?
Stadium ciruit training -
Warm up with a slow jogging to elevates your heartbeats (5-8mins)
Start Sprinting 100mins and slow jogging back ( 5 times )
JUmping Jack ( 100 counts , Recovery phase)
Follow by Push up to maximum
Follow by Cross hand squat to (as many time as you can tolerate the lactic building)
Follow by Pull up/chin up
follow by the two parallel dip bar for gymnastic i think , Use your hand and "walk from one end to another
3 - 5 Circuit . Rest 2 - 3 mins between each circuit .
Perform 2-3 session
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Post by lok3 on Jun 7, 2005 3:11:42 GMT -5
I used to be a Freaking plump fello , thereafter i when to "slim" down , that time i was freaking weak , There was once my friend want to challenge arm-wresling with me , but i rejected , i insulted me weakling and etc , well , i ignore all the critisisim becuz i know my gf still love me ! muha , anyway you are exercising for general fitness , well , same as me then . I now starting my 1 week break while doing 11 rounds around the stadium in 14mins followed by 100metres sprinting , 80 metre , 60 metre and 40metres sprinting . After this week , i'm starting on periodization . which i have done it 3 months plus ago . Anyway for general fitness , You actually doesn't really need weight training , but with addition of weight training , it's also efficient . Why not try circuit training ? Stadium ciruit training - Warm up with a slow jogging to elevates your heartbeats (5-8mins) Start Sprinting 100mins and slow jogging back ( 5 times ) JUmping Jack ( 100 counts , Recovery phase) Follow by Push up to maximum Follow by Cross hand squat to (as many time as you can tolerate the lactic building) Follow by Pull up/chin up follow by the two parallel dip bar for gymnastic i think , Use your hand and "walk from one end to another 3 - 5 Circuit . Rest 2 - 3 mins between each circuit . Perform 2-3 session wah 4.4 km in 14 min ah proster i run 2.4 dunno got 14 min anot ;D |
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Post by Greentea on Jun 7, 2005 3:36:49 GMT -5
Actually i feel that it's more tiring to run on threadmill than in stadium . because threadmill i have to adjust to the highest incline in order for my to exhaust . ;D
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FireEel
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Post by FireEel on Jun 7, 2005 4:38:57 GMT -5
Oh yes. And I should also include the fact that I am not trying to get a huge body rippling with impressive muscles. What I want is a lean and toned body, capable of impressive numbers of pushups, lifting heavy stuff, able to defend myself, but not so that I would look enormous.
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Post by lok3 on Jun 7, 2005 6:03:13 GMT -5
Oh yes. And I should also include the fact that I am not trying to get a huge body rippling with impressive muscles. What I want is a lean and toned body, capable of impressive numbers of pushups, lifting heavy stuff, able to defend myself, but not so that I would look enormous. By training for maximal strength, u will gain little muscle ;D |
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Post by jonathan on Jun 7, 2005 10:35:13 GMT -5
Er, FireEel, you need to focus on what you want to achieve. "General fitness" is a nice way of saying you don't know what you want, but you want it anyway. Most of the time it's synonymous to have good-looking muscles, which frankly is like chasing after the wind.
You want to be able to do a whole bunch of push-ups? Here follow this. First you will have to find the maximum number of reps you can do. After that, you will do a percentage of this number during your workout.
"Week 1
Mon test your max, 30% every 60 minutes
Tue 50% every 60 minutes
Wed 60% every 45 minutes
Thurs 25% every 60 minutes
Friday 45% every 30 minutes
Saturday 40% every 60 minutes
Sunday 20% every 90 minutes
Week 2
Mon test your max again, 35% every 45 minutes
Tue 55% every 20 minutes
Wed 30% 15 minutes
Thurs 65% every 60 minutes
Friday 35% every 45 minutes
Saturday 45% every 60 minutes
Sunday 25% every 120 minutes
Week 3
Test max
The routine is over. Do it for two weeks, something else for another two weeks and then you can start again.
Guidelines
Never go near failure except when testing your max.
Vary repetitions, sets and rest periods daily.
Taper down before a peak."
You want to learn total self-defense? Pick a practical striking art like karate, muay thai and a grappling/ground fighting art like Brazilian Jujistsu.
You want to be able to lift heavy? Read up on the many deadlift/squat techniques and routines in this forum.
How you are going to fit all this together, that's up to you. Will you look good after doing all this? It's anyone's guess man, you're 17, you haven't finished growing, don't know what your eating habits are, etc.
My two cents, forget about the "looking good" part and just train what you want.
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